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Meditation Questions / Re: Meditations (Changing Beliefs & the Placebo)
« Last post by omi888 on February 22, 2017, 11:36:42 AM »
Thank you! actually I loved your reply and can totally work with that idea. Would love to ask the question to Dr. Joe Dispenza but I am not on the teleclasses (yet ;) )
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Meditation Questions / Re: Meditations (Changing Beliefs & the Placebo)
« Last post by Calispera on February 22, 2017, 10:56:51 AM »
Hi Vess, Hi Calispera,
It was intresting reading what you both wrote. I just finished listening to the audio book 'You are the Placebo' and at the end when Dr. Joe Dispenza talks about how to prepare for the meditation (comfort, no noise etc etc) he also says to draw a line down a piece of paper and on the left write what 2 perspectives/beliefs you want to change and on the right side write the new perspective/belief you want to replace it with, so that is what I have been doing in the meditation yet I find your last answer Calispera also makes sense and now I wonder...

Also I joined this forum because I was hoping to get an answer to my question too which is do we keep stating the same 2 unwanted beliefs and stating the 2 new ones that will replace them in every meditation or is it a given once sent out into the field of potentiality that its a done deal and no need to keep revisiting but instead to come up with 2 new ones but then again I think of those who have a chronic illness and how they would probably need to keep focusing on it each meditation because it might take time to dissolve...?

For this question I don't have any idea. ...hmm, maybe a little one : each time, do work on a different aspect of the belief you want to change. So, each time it's the same belief on which you're working, but each time, you work on something different.

You can ask the question to Joe Dispenza during the teleclass, or experiment and see what brings you the best.
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Meditation Questions / Re: Meditations (Changing Beliefs & the Placebo)
« Last post by omi888 on February 22, 2017, 07:32:50 AM »
Hi Vess, Hi Calispera,
It was intresting reading what you both wrote. I just finished listening to the audio book 'You are the Placebo' and at the end when Dr. Joe Dispenza talks about how to prepare for the meditation (comfort, no noise etc etc) he also says to draw a line down a piece of paper and on the left write what 2 perspectives/beliefs you want to change and on the right side write the new perspective/belief you want to replace it with, so that is what I have been doing in the meditation yet I find your last answer Calispera also makes sense and now I wonder...

Also I joined this forum because I was hoping to get an answer to my question too which is do we keep stating the same 2 unwanted beliefs and stating the 2 new ones that will replace them in every meditation or is it a given once sent out into the field of potentiality that its a done deal and no need to keep revisiting but instead to come up with 2 new ones but then again I think of those who have a chronic illness and how they would probably need to keep focusing on it each meditation because it might take time to dissolve...?
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Speak with Fellow Event Participants / Suite au fabuleux atelier progressif Paris 2017!
« Last post by Muriel on February 22, 2017, 06:39:29 AM »
Chers Génies francophones,

Le lendemain de l'atelier, j'ai eu la joie de retrouver des génies multi-dimentionnels et illimités venant de Belgique et de France, et nous avons décidé de lancer un sujet en français.

Cet atelier a été tellement exceptionnel que j'ai trouvé difficile de m'en arracher, et il semble que bien des participants aient eu la même réaction : on aurait voulu que ça dure bien plus longtemps, pour baigner un peu plus dans l'énergie et l'amour qui ont régné tout le week-end.

J'habite en région parisienne et je me sens poussée par le besoin d'échanger, et pourquoi pas, de méditer en compagnie d'autres parisiens ou banlieusards. Je me doute que beaucoup d'entre vous ont le même souhait : alors, ce sujet est pour vous, pour vous encourager à communiquer et à faire vivre, à recréer sans cesse la pure joie de vivre et l'enthousiasme qui ont été la clé de voûte de l'atelier.

Donc, n'hésitez pas à utiliser ce sujet pour retrouver dans votre région d'autres participants!

Je vous souhaite de toujours rester présents dans vos méditation... et surtout, dans vos vies! ;)

Amicalement,
Muriel


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Meditation Questions / Re: Meditations (Changing Beliefs & the Placebo)
« Last post by Calispera on February 22, 2017, 03:55:44 AM »
Hey Calispera,

thank you for your prompt answer  ;)... Yes, thats why I am irritated during the Meditation itself...
especially, when these questions came up during the meditations.. and Dr Joe ask :

1st, what is the belief you dont want to belief

2nd, he asks:  do you want to belief it? When not, make a firm decision with such an Intention that is greater than the belief ..and then give it back to the field... somehting like that etc

and 3th: then he says : Now, what Do you want to belief...and how it feels...

So, These are the 3steps in these Meditaions..I think, is all about being first Aware of what belief/Perceotion I want to Change/Reprint , -> then make a decision that I want to Change it, or I dont want it anymore ->3. replace it with my new belief...

But as I mentioned- I get stuck at the 2nd question--about "making the decision" .. 

bye

Indeed, I understand. And I agree with your interpretation.

I remember now this text (I've read the books, and the texts of the meditations are in the books).

In fact, there is probably an implicit meaning in the second point :
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2nd, he asks:  do you want to belief it? When not, make a firm decision with such an Intention that is greater than the belief ..and then give it back to the field... somehting like that etc

The decision is about getting out of the old belief.
Conversely, the intention is not about the old belief, the intention goes in the opposite direction.
Mathematically if you should draw two arrows ; One arrow with the old belief, and one arrow with the intention for a new belief : the two arrows should go in clearly different directions, and probably in opposite directions most of the time. And the length of the second arrow should be longer than the first one.

I think it’s a good manner to bypass the idea that I expressed in my previous message. For, most of the time, we know extremely well what we want to leave, but we ignore very often totally where we want to go. And so, in what he says, there seems, to my eyes, to be a very efficient mean to avoid what I said in my message. You then don’t have to know already the new belief. For, if the intention is strong enough, then it is our mind, our intuition that will give us the answer (not our rationality). And that’s precisely what he tries to obtain with this meditation.

And it’s surely difficult to be able to do that, it requires to go through the eye of a needle. But there is probably no other way in order to succeed in a few minutes to reach that.

Repeating this meditation will help to reach it. For, our subconscious will make the work between those meditations.

When we are exercised enough, it becomes then possible to reach directly our new belief by this mean, …. I guess ;)

It would be nice if someone who is practicing this meditation would tell if I guess correctly or not ;)


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Meditation Questions / Re: Meditations (Changing Beliefs & the Placebo)
« Last post by vess on February 22, 2017, 01:56:28 AM »
Hey Calispera,

thank you for your prompt answer  ;)... Yes, thats why I am irritated during the Meditation itself...
especially, when these questions came up during the meditations.. and Dr Joe ask :

1st, what is the belief you dont want to belief

2nd, he asks:  do you want to belief it? When not, make a firm decision with such an Intention that is greater than the belief ..and then give it back to the field... somehting like that etc

and 3th: then he says : Now, what Do you want to belief...and how it feels...

So, These are the 3steps in these Meditaions..I think, is all about being first Aware of what belief/Perceotion I want to Change/Reprint , -> then make a decision that I want to Change it, or I dont want it anymore ->3. replace it with my new belief...

But as I mentioned- I get stuck at the 2nd question--about "making the decision" .. 

bye


 
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Meditation Questions / Re: Meditations (Changing Beliefs & the Placebo)
« Last post by Calispera on February 22, 2017, 01:22:59 AM »
Hi Vess,

Our language and our thoughts are making possible a negation in order to express things. But in terms of beliefs, intentions, projects, we have to orient our mind towards something to build, something to create, something constructive. So, I don’t think that you can make an intention of « not believing something », you only can make an intention of believing something.

When you are working on intentions containing negative subjects, your mind will still be focused on those subjects, so you will maintain these subjects in your life. You have then to focus your mind on what you want to see happen in your life.

So, in order to do that, you have first to find out what is that you want to believe which will replace the belief that you want to loose.

This is my opinion, made without doing those meditations ;)
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Meditation Questions / Meditations (Changing Beliefs & the Placebo)
« Last post by vess on February 22, 2017, 12:16:25 AM »
Hello everyone,

I have a question regarding the Meditations "Changing Beliefs" and "PLacebo"

It concerns the Mids of These Medis- the Moment when Dr. Joe says s´thing like that :"Now , make a such firm decisions... with such firm Intention ... "
So, my question is-> what is meant by that "decision"- should I Think into my mind " NO, I dont want to belief it (my old belief) anymore...."  or something else??

Is there anyone that made These Medis and maby can  give me some tips?

Thank you a lot...

best regards
Vess
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General Discussion / Re: Dr. Joe Fan in Corning, New York
« Last post by eieigoto on February 21, 2017, 08:05:12 PM »
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General Discussion / Re: Daily Meditations Format
« Last post by johnmac8 on February 21, 2017, 07:14:21 PM »
I start at 5am everyday and do Breaking The Habit Of Being Yourself followed by Blessing The Energy Centres 3 takes a bit over 2 hours.
cheers
John
Sydney, Australia
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